Hock, Dave, and Larry are thinking of doing a long backcountry alpine route. Our original intention had been to climb the "Diagonal Route" (5.8) on Wallface. However, having just climbed Sawteeth and gotten a close-up view, I think we may switch our objectives. At the moment we are leaning toward hiking in 4 miles to the base of the North Face of Gothics, climb the moderate 1000' route (5.2) on the right hand edge of the face, and then make three rappelsdown the back-side to do the 5.10a Direct South Face. The photographs show a route close-up, as well as the view from the Upper Ausable Lake. (As always, click on the image to enlarge the photograph.)