We called it desperate, or thin, or just plain out of condition. We climbed it if we had to, and often broke our gear doing it. Did you own a terrordaactyl or some other precursor to the current day nomic Read this interesting piece on Dane's Cold Thistle Blog. CLICK HERE TO READ WHAT BOUCHARD, FERGUSON, BUHLER, AND KLEWIN HAVE TO SAY ABOUT MODERN MIXED CLIMBING..